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> <channel><title>Comments on: I half expected a nymph to appear</title> <atom:link href="http://www.chrisrand.com/hmhb/expected-nymph/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.chrisrand.com/hmhb/expected-nymph/</link> <description>Busking this at Embankment Tube tomorrow</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:57:59 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <xhtml:meta xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" name="robots" content="noindex" /> <item><title>By: Mac</title><link>http://www.chrisrand.com/hmhb/expected-nymph/comment-page-2/#comment-11187</link> <dc:creator>Mac</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2010 05:56:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chrisrand.com/hmhb/?p=372#comment-11187</guid> <description>And apparently her last words were, &quot;Tell David Cameron that if he screws up my beloved NHS I&#039;ll come back and bloody haunt him.&quot;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And apparently her last words were, &#8220;Tell David Cameron that if he screws up my beloved NHS I&#8217;ll come back and bloody haunt him.&#8221;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mac</title><link>http://www.chrisrand.com/hmhb/expected-nymph/comment-page-1/#comment-11186</link> <dc:creator>Mac</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2010 05:52:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chrisrand.com/hmhb/?p=372#comment-11186</guid> <description>12th October and the curse strikes again. Although she was 79 Claire Rayner shuffled off this mortal coil.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>12th October and the curse strikes again. Although she was 79 Claire Rayner shuffled off this mortal coil.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jan</title><link>http://www.chrisrand.com/hmhb/expected-nymph/comment-page-1/#comment-5215</link> <dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 13:30:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chrisrand.com/hmhb/?p=372#comment-5215</guid> <description>Lordy! Still getting my head around this classic bit of word, Mr E. I read somewhere last year that most roadies are surprisingly well-read as they have to spend so much time waiting around -- enough so to make sending time with them much like a classical literary education. Here amongst us we appear to have an outcrop of the very same phenom. Any takers for a sweep on the date of publication of the first PhD thesis on HMHB?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lordy! Still getting my head around this classic bit of word, Mr E. I read somewhere last year that most roadies are surprisingly well-read as they have to spend so much time waiting around &#8212; enough so to make sending time with them much like a classical literary education. Here amongst us we appear to have an outcrop of the very same phenom. Any takers for a sweep on the date of publication of the first PhD thesis on HMHB?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Rowan</title><link>http://www.chrisrand.com/hmhb/expected-nymph/comment-page-1/#comment-5211</link> <dc:creator>Rowan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 11:27:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chrisrand.com/hmhb/?p=372#comment-5211</guid> <description>Here here. It&#039;s comments like that one that make this website what it is.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here here. It&#8217;s comments like that one that make this website what it is.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Chris The Siteowner</title><link>http://www.chrisrand.com/hmhb/expected-nymph/comment-page-1/#comment-5187</link> <dc:creator>Chris The Siteowner</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 09:23:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chrisrand.com/hmhb/?p=372#comment-5187</guid> <description>Blimey, it&#039;s been an epic few days on this web site, but if there was a &quot;comment of the week&quot; award, that&#039;d be it. Top work.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blimey, it&#8217;s been an epic few days on this web site, but if there was a &#8220;comment of the week&#8221; award, that&#8217;d be it. Top work.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Charles Exford</title><link>http://www.chrisrand.com/hmhb/expected-nymph/comment-page-1/#comment-5186</link> <dc:creator>Charles Exford</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 09:16:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chrisrand.com/hmhb/?p=372#comment-5186</guid> <description>OK, from the splendid little volume &lt;em&gt;&quot;Wirral Born and Bred: the Old Life of the Countryside in Wirral&quot;&lt;/em&gt;, by John Eastwood, page 25 (of just 63 pages):
&lt;em&gt;&quot;In the middle of the glade stood a wild apple tree, which gave it its name. There was a grassy bank beneath it, and when I grew older I would spend many a happy hour here with a book by R.L. Stevenson or Hardy, or Swinburne&#039;s poems, half-conscious of the furtive movements of moorhen or water-vole in the rushy ponds,the shy summer warblings of countless little birds in the thickets of gorse or hawthorn, the deep midsummer hum of a myriad insects. If one moved suddenly a pair of wild ducks was likely to hurtle startlingly from the rushes. It was a magic place: one half-expected some nymph to emerge shyly from the brake, some not-impossible She grown from the Wirral scene (particularly after reading Swinburne). Unfortunately she never did; one had to be content with Suke Damson or Catriona.&quot;
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Suke and Catriona are Hardy&#039;s and Stevenson&#039;s most alluring heroines, respectively. NB57, on the other hand, has to be content with Claire Rayner.
To use she as a noun as in &quot;a she&quot;, or &quot;some she&quot;, is a poetic and unusual turn of phrase these days, but nevertheless a perfectly acceptable way to say &quot;a female person&quot; (you&#039;ll still find it in a decent dictionary). The reason for the capitalisation is not entirely clear to me but it may come from whichever of Swinburne&#039;s poems Eastwood  is referring to here, a title for a divine nymph perhaps, a bit like the convention of capitalising He for a divinity, etc. I dunno, the capital &quot;S&quot; doesn&#039;t matter really I suppose.
To shorten the line, and presumably to take us away from any particular locality, NB57, instead of &quot;grown from the Wirral scene&quot;, says &quot;from the brushwood&quot;, which doesn&#039;t apper in the Eastwood text, and it would be uncharacteristic of me if I didn&#039;t wonder aloud where this comes from, putting two and two together and making loads of bollocks...
But I&#039;ll just say it&#039;s interesting that Kipling has a famous story (The Brushwood Boy) in which a dream girl, the Brushwood Girl, repeatedly appears to the hero from out of the brushwood. We certainly have the words at least 3 writers (Eastwood, Swinburne and Hardy) wrapped up in these couple of lines of Blackwell, so why not a 4th - Kipling ?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, from the splendid little volume <em>&#8220;Wirral Born and Bred: the Old Life of the Countryside in Wirral&#8221;</em>, by John Eastwood, page 25 (of just 63 pages):</p><p><em>&#8220;In the middle of the glade stood a wild apple tree, which gave it its name. There was a grassy bank beneath it, and when I grew older I would spend many a happy hour here with a book by R.L. Stevenson or Hardy, or Swinburne&#8217;s poems, half-conscious of the furtive movements of moorhen or water-vole in the rushy ponds,the shy summer warblings of countless little birds in the thickets of gorse or hawthorn, the deep midsummer hum of a myriad insects. If one moved suddenly a pair of wild ducks was likely to hurtle startlingly from the rushes. It was a magic place: one half-expected some nymph to emerge shyly from the brake, some not-impossible She grown from the Wirral scene (particularly after reading Swinburne). Unfortunately she never did; one had to be content with Suke Damson or Catriona.&#8221;<br
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/> Suke and Catriona are Hardy&#8217;s and Stevenson&#8217;s most alluring heroines, respectively. NB57, on the other hand, has to be content with Claire Rayner.</p><p>To use she as a noun as in &#8220;a she&#8221;, or &#8220;some she&#8221;, is a poetic and unusual turn of phrase these days, but nevertheless a perfectly acceptable way to say &#8220;a female person&#8221; (you&#8217;ll still find it in a decent dictionary). The reason for the capitalisation is not entirely clear to me but it may come from whichever of Swinburne&#8217;s poems Eastwood  is referring to here, a title for a divine nymph perhaps, a bit like the convention of capitalising He for a divinity, etc. I dunno, the capital &#8220;S&#8221; doesn&#8217;t matter really I suppose.</p><p>To shorten the line, and presumably to take us away from any particular locality, NB57, instead of &#8220;grown from the Wirral scene&#8221;, says &#8220;from the brushwood&#8221;, which doesn&#8217;t apper in the Eastwood text, and it would be uncharacteristic of me if I didn&#8217;t wonder aloud where this comes from, putting two and two together and making loads of bollocks&#8230;</p><p>But I&#8217;ll just say it&#8217;s interesting that Kipling has a famous story (The Brushwood Boy) in which a dream girl, the Brushwood Girl, repeatedly appears to the hero from out of the brushwood. We certainly have the words at least 3 writers (Eastwood, Swinburne and Hardy) wrapped up in these couple of lines of Blackwell, so why not a 4th &#8211; Kipling ?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Charles Exford</title><link>http://www.chrisrand.com/hmhb/expected-nymph/comment-page-1/#comment-5162</link> <dc:creator>Charles Exford</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:24:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chrisrand.com/hmhb/?p=372#comment-5162</guid> <description>I just meant it&#039;s one of those that once you know what the word is, you can hear it clearly.
I didn&#039;t mean it was obvious that it should be capitalised, or obvious what it means, but take it from me &quot;She&quot; is capitalised in the John Eastwood passage in question (from &quot;Wirral Born and Bred&quot;),  and I suspect from Eastwood&#039;s next sentence, that the capitalisation has got something to do with a Swinburne poem about nymphs. I&#039;ve got the book at home but I won&#039;t be there for a couple of days so no page reference.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just meant it&#8217;s one of those that once you know what the word is, you can hear it clearly.</p><p>I didn&#8217;t mean it was obvious that it should be capitalised, or obvious what it means, but take it from me &#8220;She&#8221; is capitalised in the John Eastwood passage in question (from &#8220;Wirral Born and Bred&#8221;),  and I suspect from Eastwood&#8217;s next sentence, that the capitalisation has got something to do with a Swinburne poem about nymphs. I&#8217;ve got the book at home but I won&#8217;t be there for a couple of days so no page reference.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Chris The Siteowner</title><link>http://www.chrisrand.com/hmhb/expected-nymph/comment-page-1/#comment-5159</link> <dc:creator>Chris The Siteowner</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 18:42:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chrisrand.com/hmhb/?p=372#comment-5159</guid> <description>&quot;somewhat obviously once you know, it’s She (with a capital “S”) and not sheep”
...come on then Exxo, enlighten us with a reference or something. It don&#039;t make no sense to me, guv.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;somewhat obviously once you know, it’s She (with a capital “S”) and not sheep”</p><p>&#8230;come on then Exxo, enlighten us with a reference or something. It don&#8217;t make no sense to me, guv.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Charles Exford</title><link>http://www.chrisrand.com/hmhb/expected-nymph/comment-page-1/#comment-5158</link> <dc:creator>Charles Exford</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:18:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chrisrand.com/hmhb/?p=372#comment-5158</guid> <description>It is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chrisrand.com/hmhb/it-might-sound-bogus-but-its-official/&quot;&gt;officially confirmed&lt;/a&gt; as &quot;McCrae&quot;.
Interestingly, and somewhat obviously once you know, it&#039;s &quot;She&quot; (with a capital &quot;S&quot;) and not &quot;sheep&quot;. At this particular point, NB57 is paraphrasing John Eastwood, a local Wirral writer, taking about an idyllic spot where he used to sit and read books as a lad in pre-war times. Eastwood in turn is alluding to references to nymphs in Swinburne&#039;s poetry. And the &quot;brushwood&quot; may or may not be a reference to a Kipling story.
John Eastwood of course is lauded as one of the &quot;Four Lads Who Shook the Wirral&quot; under the pic&#039;s of Big Jimmy Nail on the inside cover of that album. And his writing seems to have influenced NB57 in other songs too, notably influencing some of the more rural images in &quot;Emerging from Gorse&quot;.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is <a
href="http://www.chrisrand.com/hmhb/it-might-sound-bogus-but-its-official/">officially confirmed</a> as &#8220;McCrae&#8221;.</p><p>Interestingly, and somewhat obviously once you know, it&#8217;s &#8220;She&#8221; (with a capital &#8220;S&#8221;) and not &#8220;sheep&#8221;. At this particular point, NB57 is paraphrasing John Eastwood, a local Wirral writer, taking about an idyllic spot where he used to sit and read books as a lad in pre-war times. Eastwood in turn is alluding to references to nymphs in Swinburne&#8217;s poetry. And the &#8220;brushwood&#8221; may or may not be a reference to a Kipling story.</p><p>John Eastwood of course is lauded as one of the &#8220;Four Lads Who Shook the Wirral&#8221; under the pic&#8217;s of Big Jimmy Nail on the inside cover of that album. And his writing seems to have influenced NB57 in other songs too, notably influencing some of the more rural images in &#8220;Emerging from Gorse&#8221;.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Charles Exford</title><link>http://www.chrisrand.com/hmhb/expected-nymph/comment-page-1/#comment-3957</link> <dc:creator>Charles Exford</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 12:39:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.chrisrand.com/hmhb/?p=372#comment-3957</guid> <description>Lyrics-wise the only absolute elucidation to emerge from Sheffield last night was a deliberately exaggerated enunciation of &quot;McCrae&quot; as if making a purposeful effort to amend the version on here.
Oh and last night this particular true story was set in the village of Mere (the one in Cheshire, &quot;where Graeme Souness used to live&quot;).</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lyrics-wise the only absolute elucidation to emerge from Sheffield last night was a deliberately exaggerated enunciation of &#8220;McCrae&#8221; as if making a purposeful effort to amend the version on here.</p><p>Oh and last night this particular true story was set in the village of Mere (the one in Cheshire, &#8220;where Graeme Souness used to live&#8221;).</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
